HSR

[hamstroll]

I believe the HSR is a public service that should provide reliable public transit to the People of Hamilton. Many people DEPEND on the bus system to get to work on time.
HSR has to take this very serious.
They need to do a complete audit on useage and maybe realign some routes.
The drivers has to ditch the cell phones and limit the "washroom breaks" at Tim's. Everyone needs a break but it should not interfere with th rider's getting to work. The driver is at work, so bring a Thermos and take a break at the end or start of your route there is time if you you adhere to the route and schedule. IE Dundurn stairs, Valley park, Mount Albion and Kings Forest. Maybe a porta-potty to drain some of the coffee off.
Free transit is not the true answer but a reduced monthly pass and corporate discounts. Imagine if Hamilton Health strongly supported their employees to ride the bus. Or all the people downtown or at the courts,
Have a buck a trip price.
You don't think a company would locate here if their employees had cheap transit. Cheaper than parking for both the employer and employee..

[Nofrag]

Between the high cost of fuel, vandalism, operator wages etc., it's just not feasible.

[Sean]

I think that lower fares are feasible - we (The public) just have to make a conscious decision that transit is as important as the road system - and vote accordingly.

I think that transit is an essential public service, akin to roads, fire, police, etc and as such should be publicly funded.

I do not necessarily think that free transit is the answer. but $1 per ride would be fantastic and I absolutely agree that the montly pass prices need to come down. A monthly pass should be cheap enough that you'd be stupid NOT to get one. As it stands you ahve to take the bus every single day to justify a pass - so many people don't get a pass because they know they might not take the bus EVERY day. And those people then take the bus less than they would have if they owned a pass. We need to really make passes enticing, and make the cash fare small enough that it's like throwaway pocket change.

We spend so much on highways and nothing on transit. We need to even it up a bit!

[Hamiltonguy71]

Yes the $1 a ride idea is a good one !

I know for a FACT that Burlington Transit did or does that. After 7pm their fares drop to $1.

Why can't Hamilton do that on some routes?

[Robert_D]

I'm not going to say $1 a ride, because I think that might be too much of a shock. But as it stands this $2.40 per ride is mostly theoretical, you can buy tickets at almost any convenience store and adult tickets work out to $1.85 each. If you don't buy a ticket once in a while, that's excusable, but if you take the bus regularly and you don't buy tickets, well, you're just costing yourself (and supporting the HSR, so thank you.).

I agree about the monthly pass not really being worth it. That price definitely has to come down. As for the routes, I think the majority work fairly well, and I'd be interested to hear what routes people think have issues. We do need more frequent service, especially at off peak times. Faster service (through BRT/LRT) would also encourage more people to take public transit.

What encourages people to take public transit? What makes someone decide to give up driving and take the bus? If we can answer this question, then we can get more people on the HSR, and then, hopefully, it will snowball from there.

[Sean]

If it was as simple as dropping a loonie in the farebox, you wouldn't need tickets or the logistics of distributing them, collecting the cash, preventing fraud, etc.

Make it more convenient - drop in a buck and away you go. Often I'm on my bike at work, we get a dump of snow and I want to take the bus home. But I don't have a ticket, there's no vendor nearby and I don't want to overpay on the cash fare, so I ride home in a blizzard. If it was just a loonie,. I'd be on that bus in a flash. THe bus is going to run anyway with or without me. Under the $1 system, they'd have gotten a buck out of me. Under the current system they get zero.

If enough people like me could be swayed by the easy "Drop a loonie" system, then ridership would go up.

Can someone explain to me the advantage of tickets? How does the discounted ticket system help the HSR? How does it help the rider?

I think they should run a 6 month trial at $1 per ride - no more tickets - and $35 monthly passes. Let's just see how ridership is affected. We might end up with MORE income, not less!

Anounce it as a limited time offer and if it doesn;t work, then go back to the current system.

My hunch is that it would be a huge success.

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